Live engine data on SID

[Vyv]

Oke, today I've driven the car to test with realtime engine data on the SID. Why wait so long, you might ask? I had a big fever, and didn't feel like driving.

These a some findings.

* After startup, I don't see extra info on the SID like; how long it took to start engine in seconds, engine temp, ...
* I am only able to enter the "real-time mode" when pressing the brake pedal and press + and - at the same time.
* First thing I see is the software version of the bin (EA1YZA9C.47B)
* SID remembers the last parameters I look at the last time.

A parameter that can be added to the list is Teng; engine temperature. My values on the highway are 89 and 90 degrees Celsuis.

Then some odd things...
* I can not leave the "real-time mode". Not by pressing the clear button.
* When I press the night-panel button, all goes into night-panel mode. Except the SID. However, nigh-panel does not go away anymore when pressing the night-panel mode button. Once night-panel mode it's stays night-panel mode.

Some values...
* The values of Meng (Calcaulated torgue) and Mlow (Torque limit) are low. Mlow says 249, but my torque limiters in my bin are much higher. Meng doesn't reach higher values than Mlow when driving on the highway at WOT.

* The Pinl (intake pressure after throttleplate (boost in mBar)) value only reached 1450, does this mean I only have 0.45 bar boost?

Will take a look at the values for mReq (Total requested airmass after pedal request and limits) and mAir (Actual airmass) later today.

PS. I have SID2, with the extra values for "estimated time of arival", "speed limit signal", ...

[juice]

What happens when you kill contact and restart the car (or put it back on contact)? Does this work like a hard reboot? What if you hit brake and + and - after hitting the night panel button?

[Vyv]

Restart car, results in a nice clear SID.
Brake and [+] and [-] does not exit real-time mode.

[mackan]

Press Night Panel several times should take you out of the darkness, same thing with exiting real time mode, press + and - together, that how it works for me anyway

[Vyv]

Mister Mackan, what are your experiences with the values of Meng (Calcaulated torgue) and Mlow (Torque limit) ?

[Lysmask]

Some values...
* The values of Meng (Calcaulated torgue) and Mlow (Torque limit) are low. Mlow says 249, but my torque limiters in my bin are much higher. Meng doesn't reach higher values than Mlow when driving on the highway at WOT.

Do you get Mlow 249 regardless of gear/rpm?

In my car it follows the torque curve set perfectly. Starts at about 250 and up to 370 around 3000-4500rpm then lowers again.
If i press the brake it goes to 200, same if clutch pressed as i recall.

Meng should not reach higher than Mlow since that'st the high limit so that's correct behaviour. On my car i see Meng 360-370 at most.
Before driving a couple of kilometers it overshot and reached higher but now its steady at requested values.

I use same base sw as Mackan i believe (Don't recall sw id but 9-5 B205E BP, 46S)

[Vyv]

No, Mlow varies. Indeed when I press the brake it drops to 200. At low revs it is also lower than 249.

Maybe I should start from scratch with the "9-5 B205E 98-00 Green Inj 190HP EU EA1YZA9C.47B" bin, open that one up and re-flash. Maybe I flashed a wrong bin to the ECU...

So many bins, so little time...

[Janus0070]

Hi, its the n00b speaking. I could not find the WriteProtectECU in my bins no matter how deep I looked.. Then I checked the bins I have from TIS and it seems WriteProtectECU is a 9-5 thing.. I checked 7 9-3 bins, all lacked the parameter. 5 random 9-5 bins did have the WriteProtectECU under undocumented. 9-3 bins had 12 undocumenteds'‹ 9-5 bins - 13.

How did you get it working on 9-3?

[gredd]

Some values...
* The values of Meng (Calcaulated torgue) and Mlow (Torque limit) are low. Mlow says 249, but my torque limiters in my bin are much higher. Meng doesn't reach higher values than Mlow when driving on the highway at WOT.

Do you get Mlow 249 regardless of gear/rpm?

In my car it follows the torque curve set perfectly. Starts at about 250 and up to 370 around 3000-4500rpm then lowers again.
If i press the brake it goes to 200, same if clutch pressed as i recall.

Meng should not reach higher than Mlow since that'st the high limit so that's correct behaviour. On my car i see Meng 360-370 at most.
Before driving a couple of kilometers it overshot and reached higher but now its steady at requested values.

I use same base sw as Mackan i believe (Don't recall sw id but 9-5 B205E BP, 46S)

I also thought that Mlow was dependent of Meng but if you alter the AirTorque matrix you can get more Meng then Mlow. I think T7 uses Mnom from TorqueCal.Nominal matrix against torque limits. Can anyone confirm this?

[mackan]

I also thought that Mlow was dependent of Meng but if you alter the AirTorque matrix you can get more Meng then Mlow. I think T7 uses Mnom from TorqueCal.Nominal matrix against torque limits. Can anyone confirm this?

TorqueCal.Nominal , airtorque, bstknk, pedalrequest all work together...

[mackan]

Mister Mackan, what are your experiences with the values of Meng (Calcaulated torgue) and Mlow (Torque limit) ?

Correctly calibrated airmass/nm and boostcal maps and they should show the same value.

You should really try to go for a newer bin, were you 100% sure you were running with green injectors? Can help you out with a -05 bin later on if you can't manage it by yourself

[mackan]

Hi, its the n00b speaking. I could not find the WriteProtectECU in my bins no matter how deep I looked.. Then I checked the bins I have from TIS and it seems WriteProtectECU is a 9-5 thing.. I checked 7 9-3 bins, all lacked the parameter. 5 random 9-5 bins did have the WriteProtectECU under undocumented. 9-3 bins had 12 undocumenteds'‹ 9-5 bins - 13.

How did you get it working on 9-3?

Open up a hexeditor and search for the string Yes and you shall find it.

[Lysmask]

Mister Mackan, what are your experiences with the values of Meng (Calcaulated torgue) and Mlow (Torque limit) ?

Correctly calibrated airmass/nm and boostcal maps and they should show the same value.

You should really try to go for a newer bin, were you 100% sure you were running with green injectors? Can help you out with a -05 bin later on if you can't manage it by yourself

This is true, it's very easy to get a bit off between the tables when you cut, paste and some rescaling.

[Janus0070]

Found it at some truly obscure line(0000BFA7 to be exact) I surely hope that's the one. Oh you lucky 9-5 owners..

[Vyv]

After a quick stop and start of the motor, the SID was still in real-time mode. So several times pressing [+] and [-] and pressing the brake pedal at the same time and the SID went back to normal.

@janus0070
Not all 9-5 bin's have the symbol "WriteProtectedECU" either. Like mackan said, search for "Yes" and you should only find one entry.

@mackan
I'm pretty sure I'm running on green injectors, because the first flash I did was a "2001 9-5 B205E man" bin file from "yellow car" and the car did not run good and did not idle. Atfer that I flashed the factory bin: '9-5 B205E 98-00 Green Inj 190HP EU EA1YZA9C.47B" which was a success. But I will take a peak under the hood, just to be 100% sure.

Do the newer bins only work on non green injectors?

[mackan]

Do the newer bins only work on non green injectors?

Thats why youre here mate, to tune the bins to your liking, change the fuelmaps etc
Compare a late 9-5 Aero bin to your current one and youll see a lot of changes to be made

[Janus0070]

Found it, flashed the bin, it works! Thanks guys, you rule! BTW, I checked the night panel thing-it seems that when in real time and night mode I have to push the button once and then for the second time while SID is dark for two seconds-then it will go back to normal mode. BTW-aircon decided to scare me today with a self check, I monitored one for the first time in my 9-3.Hell knows what triggered it..

[mackan]

Found it, flashed the bin, it works! Thanks guys, you rule! BTW, I checked the night panel thing-it seems that when in real time and night mode I have to push the button once and then for the second time while SID is dark for two seconds-then it will go back to normal mode. BTW-aircon decided to scare me today with a self check, I monitored one for the first time in my 9-3.Hell knows what triggered it..

thats something that I have got too after this mod, nothing to be afraid of though

[Dilemma]

Hell knows what triggered it..

Probably you, pushing too many buttons

[saabb235r]

Dear Sirs,

Is there somebody going to make a description for this feature, or will gredd proceed on his summary?
Is it possible only to choice three values; the actual airmass, the calculated engine torque and the air intake temperature only?
Thanks!
S.